pinched optics 130EDT


Chris Cook
 

Does anyone know how much of a turn of the front retaining ring is necessary to alleviate pinched optics?  I was star testing my 1992 130EDT at 234x this evening and noticed the diffraction pattern both inside and outside of focus is ever so slightly triangular.  The scope sits outside in my observatory so cool down is not an issue.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
Chris
 


Roland Christen
 

Back it off as much as you want. The lens is a one piece construction and the retaining ring is just there to keep the lens from falling out if you turn the scope upside down. If that doesn't fix it, it may require service here. Contact George for a return authorization.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: AP-UG <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm
Subject: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Does anyone know how much of a turn of the front retaining ring is necessary to alleviate pinched optics?  I was star testing my 1992 130EDT at 234x this evening and noticed the diffraction pattern both inside and outside of focus is ever so slightly triangular.  The scope sits outside in my observatory so cool down is not an issue.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
Chris
 


Chris Cook
 

Ok, I'll give it a try.  Thanks.
 
Chris


 

----- Original Message -----
From: Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: 11/28/2022 9:41:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Back it off as much as you want. The lens is a one piece construction and the retaining ring is just there to keep the lens from falling out if you turn the scope upside down. If that doesn't fix it, it may require service here. Contact George for a return authorization.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: AP-UG <main@ap-ug.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm
Subject: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Does anyone know how much of a turn of the front retaining ring is necessary to alleviate pinched optics?  I was star testing my 1992 130EDT at 234x this evening and noticed the diffraction pattern both inside and outside of focus is ever so slightly triangular.  The scope sits outside in my observatory so cool down is not an issue.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
Chris
 


Chris Cook
 

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








Roland Christen
 

If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








Pete Lardizabal
 

Any perimeter small set screws on that vintage scope?

Pete

On Nov 29, 2022, at 2:23 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris


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Chris Cook
 

I don't see any set screws.
 
Chris


 

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Lardizabal <p14@...>
Sent: 11/29/2022 2:59:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Any perimeter small set screws on that vintage scope?

Pete

On Nov 29, 2022, at 2:23 PM, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris


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ROBERT WYNNE
 

I think you will find application of dry heat to the retaining ring a possible solution. The ring will expand a great deal faster than its counterpart. If there is some sort of adhesive freezing the retaining ring that really is a problem best handled at A-P. -Best, Robert

On 11/29/2022 10:56 AM Chris Cook <chris@...> wrote:


Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








ROBERT WYNNE
 

Shouldn't force be applied CW allowing the ring to move away from the front element? May the force be with you. -Best, Robert

On 11/29/2022 11:23 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








Chris Cook
 

Doesn't CCW (left) loosen? Unless Rolando reversed the threads?
 
Chris


 

----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT WYNNE <robert-wynne@...>
To: <main@ap-ug.groups.io>, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: 11/29/2022 11:30:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Shouldn't force be applied CW allowing the ring to move away from the front element? May the force be with you. -Best, Robert
On 11/29/2022 11:23 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








George
 

CCW it is…

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 

From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:10 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

 

Doesn't CCW (left) loosen? Unless Rolando reversed the threads?

 

Chris



 

----- Original Message -----

From: ROBERT WYNNE <robert-wynne@...>

Reply-To: <main@ap-ug.groups.io>

To: <main@ap-ug.groups.io>, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>

Sent: 11/29/2022 11:30:23 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT


Shouldn't force be applied CW allowing the ring to move away from the front element? May the force be with you. -Best, Robert

On 11/29/2022 11:23 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:

 

 

If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

 

Roland

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris








ROBERT WYNNE
 

Suppose it depends on whether one views the scope from the front or the back? -Best, Robert

On 11/30/2022 10:02 AM George <george@...> wrote:


CCW it is…

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-222-6538 (direct line)

Phone:  815-282-1513 (office)

Email:  george@...

Video Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/astrophysicscorp 

 

From: main@ap-ug.groups.io <main@ap-ug.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:10 AM
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT


Doesn't CCW (left) loosen? Unless Rolando reversed the threads?


Chris



 

----- Original Message -----

From: ROBERT WYNNE <robert-wynne@...>

Reply-To: <main@ap-ug.groups.io>

To: <main@ap-ug.groups.io>, Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...>

Sent: 11/29/2022 11:30:23 PM

Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT


Shouldn't force be applied CW allowing the ring to move away from the front element? May the force be with you. -Best, Robert

On 11/29/2022 11:23 AM Roland Christen via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:



If you can't make it work, then let George know and he will issue a return authorization.

 

Roland

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Cook <chris@...>
To: main@ap-ug.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] pinched optics 130EDT

Rolando,

I tried to loosen the retaining ring but it wouldn't move.  I applied quite a bit of CCW rotational force but didn't want to continue in fear of the spanner wrench slipping and scratching the objective.  Here are pics of the two holes on the ring and the wrench I am using. There was a very very small amount of black caulking type material in the the gap between the ring and the lens cell near the two holes.  Almost like the ring was locked in place.  Is this supposed to be like this?
Chris